True, it is not known to any of us why toby stopped development and their could be any number of reasons. Also you're right that it doesn't make sense to be negative since open source software is fairly well supported regardless of the whereabouts of the original writer(s) and that is huge considering you'd never see that with a proprietary company that discontinued a product.
However, I've been working on and off with mckoi for a few years now, been a member of this group for almost as long and have tried to acquire support for my mckoi problems many times in the past through here and by attempting to contact toby directly. It had become fairly clear (until now) that there simply isn't support out there and seemingly not a mckoi user community either. With that I have to voice my opinions about the uselssness of being a 'dreamer' in regards to mckoi. I'm a dreamer myself but I can dream up something a little cooler and more useful than a spruced up mckoi, I would like to think.
Alex
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From: "Richard S. Hall" <***@ungoverned.org>
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 18:40:37
To:***@mckoi.com
Subject: Re: Any update on Mckoi's status?
Post by a***@gmail.comGood point rich,
It is better to work on a pre-existing one rather than start from scratch. Also I know that many people have great experiences with mckoi; I did when I first started using it. Unfortunately the more functionality my software required the more limited I found mckoi to be.
As for why am I still around? Crap I signed up for the forum to solve a problem I had a couple years back (questions that were never answered) and never took myself of6. Never thought of cancelling my subscription to the group until now -- I have never before seen people talking on this and between the half dozen of us that have been posing the last few days I am 100% positive we've posted more in 3 days than this group has in its entirety in the last 2 years. So there had never been a need until now. I hope my negativity isn't causing anyone to resent me; I am only posting about my experiences with mckoi.
I agree this is the most activity in a long time. :-)
However, I guess I am just commenting as someone who does do a lot of
open source work that users are not owed anything, so it doesn't make
much sense to be very negative, especially since you have no idea what
is going on in the life of the original developer. It could be that his
original funding is gone and he had to move onto other endeavors in
order to feed his family or worse. Or it could be that he just got bored.
In the end, it doesn't matter why development stopped since he/she/they
owe us nothing if we were just using the software for free. However,
they at least did us the kindness of giving us the code to do with it as
we want, so that we are not completely stuck if we are really in a
bind...of course, this is a big undertaking, but it is still possible.
If this were a commercial company and we paid for the database and they
went out of business, we would not even get that chance.
-> richard
Post by a***@gmail.comAlex
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-----Original Message-----
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:58:51
Subject: Re: Any update on Mckoi's status?
"dead" does not necessarily == "trash"...
Sometimes leaders of open source projects also have to "wake up to
reality" and move onto other things.
For someone interested in leading a database project, it certainly makes
more sense to start with an existing one than to start from
scratch...unless of course the existing project really is trash.
However, I don't think that is the case for Mckoi, it always worked
reasonably well for me. "Better" depends on the metric, but why stick
around the mckoi mailing list if you think it is trash?
-> richard
Post by Alexander FingerPersonally I can't imagine why anyone would waste their time. If
you're going to try and help continue development on a database their
are plenty of better open source ones out there. McKoi is dead I am
sure and nothing is going to bring her back...
A
Hi folks,
If I were 10 years younger,
If my mortgage was a bit less and therefore I could afford to work
less than full time,
If I were a bit more fluent in database,
If I were a bit smarter and more ambitious,
a) would he be willing to play a role of assisting a small group of developers,
b) what plans he had had for the future of mcKoi while he was
leading the project actively,
AND
If his response were positive, I would assemble a small group
(fewer than 6) of java programmers...
Oops, I just woke up from a nice dream and back into a reality. I
think that's what they call this
thing I live in. But some of you may be freer, more ambirious, more devoting...
McKoi doesn't have to die.
Tena Sakai
-----Original Message-----
Richard S. Hall
Sent: Mon 1/28/2008 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: Any update on Mckoi's status?
The benefit of Mckoi being open source is that anyone that wants to can
pick up and start where the original developers left off...
-> richard
Post by Alexander MolochnikovTwo days ago I asked he same question on this mailing list.
So far, no reply from the developers of the database.
It does not look promising.
Alex
----- Original Message -----
Date: Monday, January 28, 2008 11:46 am
Subject: Any update on Mckoi's status?
Post by M. A. SridharDoes anyone know what's happening with Mckoi? As you know,
the last email in the archives is dated last June, so I'm
wondering if/when the next version might be available.
Regards.
M. A. Sridhar
m_a_sridhar at yahoo dot com
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